Popcast (Deluxe): Sabrina Carpenter, Chappell Roan + Editing Taylor Swift

This week’s episode of Popcast (Deluxe), the weekly culture roundup show on YouTube hosted by Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli, includes segments on:

  • How “The Tortured Poets Department” has aged with the passing of one week since its release

  • The huge commercial success of the first week of “The Tortured Poets Department”

  • The contemporary expectations of immediate album reviews

  • How Swift’s pandemic albums “folklore” and “evermore” introduced a new generation of hardcore fans

  • Jon and Joe’s picks for the best songs from “The Tortured Poets Department”

  • The rise of a pair of pop’s middle-class stars, Chappell Roan and Sabrina Carpenter

  • Carpenter’s emergence into the shadow of Dua Lipa

  • The success of “Espresso”

  • Chappell Roan’s meteoric six-month rise and her relationship to drag culture

  • Roan’s diaristic and specific songwriting

  • Songs of the week from Tommy Richman, Cash Cobain (featuring Bay Swag and Ice Spice) and Shaboozey

  • Snack of the week

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