In this preview clip, Senator Sanders, a Vermont independent who ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 and 2020, calls the United States a “pseudo-democracy” due to the way President Trump has governed and how he believes the wealthy have accrued power in both major parties.
Transcript below:
BERNIE SANDERS: One of the other concerns when I talk about oligarchy, Bob, it’s not just massive income and wealth inequality. It’s not just the power of the billionaire class. These guys, led by Musk, are – and as a result of this disastrous Citizens United Supreme Court decision, have now allowed billionaires essentially to own our political process. So, I think when we talk about America is a democracy, I think we should rephrase it, call it a pseudo-democracy. And it’s not just Musk and the Republicans. It’s billionaires in the Democratic Party as well.
ROBERT COSTA: That’s a serious thing to say as a U.S. senator, pseudo-democracy.
BERNIE SANDERS: Well, look –
ROBERT COSTA: Not, not a full democracy?
BERNIE SANDERS: Look, you get one vote, and Elon Musk can spend $270 million to help elect Trump. Does that sound like a democracy to you?
For more of Costa’s interview with Sen. Sanders, tune in to “CBS News Sunday Morning” Sunday, April 6, at 9:00 a.m. ET, and streaming on Paramount+.Â
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